
bobzibub
07-08 12:13 AM
It gets interesting. Doesn't it? Even if the court agrees that this is a fiasco and would like to compensate the beneficiaries by allowing us to file for 485, it would be in direct violation of the law that " there must be a number available on the day of filing ".We don't have any numbers. Do we? My point is, will a judicial system go out of the box and allow us to file when there are no visa numbers available? The only way is get numbers and make every one file and the only way for that is to undo what the USCIS has done in the last 2 weeks of June. Just my thoughts. I am ready to take anything positive out of this because I have least hopes pegged on the law suit.
If there must be a number at the day of filing, who's responsibility is it to manage that then? The applicant's? I filed my eb-485 based upon *their* indication that there were numbers available. I relied upon them in good faith that there were. Now I understand that they did their best to use them up as soon as they issued the visa bulletin--probably because the July 485s would not be at the higher fee schedule.
I think a judge would have no option but to allow the filings. It is not that allowing the 485s to stand would break the "numbers must be available" law. That law has already been broken, when they put Cs all over the visa bulletin.
Cheers,
-b
If there must be a number at the day of filing, who's responsibility is it to manage that then? The applicant's? I filed my eb-485 based upon *their* indication that there were numbers available. I relied upon them in good faith that there were. Now I understand that they did their best to use them up as soon as they issued the visa bulletin--probably because the July 485s would not be at the higher fee schedule.
I think a judge would have no option but to allow the filings. It is not that allowing the 485s to stand would break the "numbers must be available" law. That law has already been broken, when they put Cs all over the visa bulletin.
Cheers,
-b
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senthil1
12-14 06:52 PM
I myself will not support for skill Bill in current form. Too much H1b numbers will not only create a problem for US citizens it will also for current H1bs as well future H1bs. That 20% automatic adjustment and exemption for Cap for MS persons will increase supply and it will be tough to find a job if too many people are in the market. There are abundant jobs in India. Let people wait in India for 1 or 2 years to come here. Sustained immigration without increasing unemployment is better for US as well as potential immigrants. Otherwise Hate will increase. It may be easy to talk Capitalism and fittest will survive. When those people talking will be unemployed for more than 6 months with kids in the family will realise the truth. In the Forum most of the people are young and they did not face any issue other than Green card.
But speed with which Corporations and Lawyers are working the Skill bill be passed in current form soon. We will wait and see after 3 years after increasing H1B. My prediction is Limited increase in H1 with Moderate increase in GC numbers will solve the problem for all the gc waiting people without big reaction from anti immigrants and that will boost sustained immigration.
I agree whole-heartedly.
Senators/Congressmen are rational, smart and intelligent people. We HAVE to apprise them of our situation.
We have a legitimate, common sense and good cause on our side.
In this time of globalization and increased competition, do the senators/congressmen really want this country to lose half a million highly skilled, experienced and trained-in-America-for-years people to India and China, and to Europe and canada?
If they put 'holds' or refuse to take up our cause after they are fully aware of our situation, then atleast you know that they are doing it out of racism and/or narrow political and parochial motives.
But unless we make our situation known to these guys, we shouldn't really blame them.......Also, those with kids born in America might get more of a response from the legislators.
It is pathetic that there is a thread from NJ, and the guy is begging people to join/respond; it is mind-boggling that there are only seven members from NJ. It is absolutely ridiculous that the only two responses on the 'Calling all Wisconsin members' have been from myself, and another person. And that other person is from Illinois......
Can there be any guidance from the core team about personalizing our stories, and making those known to the legislators?
But speed with which Corporations and Lawyers are working the Skill bill be passed in current form soon. We will wait and see after 3 years after increasing H1B. My prediction is Limited increase in H1 with Moderate increase in GC numbers will solve the problem for all the gc waiting people without big reaction from anti immigrants and that will boost sustained immigration.
I agree whole-heartedly.
Senators/Congressmen are rational, smart and intelligent people. We HAVE to apprise them of our situation.
We have a legitimate, common sense and good cause on our side.
In this time of globalization and increased competition, do the senators/congressmen really want this country to lose half a million highly skilled, experienced and trained-in-America-for-years people to India and China, and to Europe and canada?
If they put 'holds' or refuse to take up our cause after they are fully aware of our situation, then atleast you know that they are doing it out of racism and/or narrow political and parochial motives.
But unless we make our situation known to these guys, we shouldn't really blame them.......Also, those with kids born in America might get more of a response from the legislators.
It is pathetic that there is a thread from NJ, and the guy is begging people to join/respond; it is mind-boggling that there are only seven members from NJ. It is absolutely ridiculous that the only two responses on the 'Calling all Wisconsin members' have been from myself, and another person. And that other person is from Illinois......
Can there be any guidance from the core team about personalizing our stories, and making those known to the legislators?

apahilaj
05-07 09:38 PM
They almost always take some kind of FPs. What I mean is that there are 3 biometrics codes. Code 3 is the most comprehensive, where they take your photo, signature and all ten fingers FP. Check your notice in the upper right corner, there should be a box that says "Code".
I always used to think (and still think) why they would issue different FP codes to different applicants even though they are all applying for same 485 petition?
Do different codes have different relevance?
I always used to think (and still think) why they would issue different FP codes to different applicants even though they are all applying for same 485 petition?
Do different codes have different relevance?
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trueguy
09-19 10:21 PM
Instead of predicting and estimating why don't all of us do some calling for HR 5822.
already did that. Is calling the only thing at the moment? Why don't you let EB3 guys talk a little?
already did that. Is calling the only thing at the moment? Why don't you let EB3 guys talk a little?
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simple1
05-01 03:14 PM
exactly, spouse/derivate doesn�t get affected at all (other than a shorter or longer delay, depending on calculations).
Anyways, regardless EAD/AP or green card the derivate cant leave the country longer time. There will be no diff for her.
They have no strings attached EAD. Look at ours/primary? Can a programmer-EAD take up Project manager Job? Categorically No.
If the primary gets greencard earlier both (primary with GC, spouse with open-ead) can work/move any place they want.
Plus it is fair this way for some primary waiting in the queue and there is no law tying EBdependent with EBquota.
Again, I am waiting to hear a forum-Attorney or IV-core�s interpretation.
I support finding the fact...
Following two concerns were raised but the answers should satisfy....
1) Spouse may not get EAD/AP?
The document clearly states that if the primary's priority date is current then the primary can file I-485 and the spouse can file I-485 as dependent.
Once spouse files his/her I-485 he/she becomes eligible for EAD/AP and there are no restrictions on what and where the spouse can work on EAD/AP.
The document only says that the visa must be used from family quota and not from employment quota.
How does it then matter whether the spouse gets green card even after 10 years if he/she can work anywhere, any occupation and full time/part time?
2) Spouse may get GC long after?
Look at it this way currently we have pool of 140K to share among primary and dependents. What if this pool becomes 200K (if we assume 60K from family quota for illustration purpose)? Which one will be faster. It has to be 200K pool.
In any case let the correct rules be followed.
Anyways, regardless EAD/AP or green card the derivate cant leave the country longer time. There will be no diff for her.
They have no strings attached EAD. Look at ours/primary? Can a programmer-EAD take up Project manager Job? Categorically No.
If the primary gets greencard earlier both (primary with GC, spouse with open-ead) can work/move any place they want.
Plus it is fair this way for some primary waiting in the queue and there is no law tying EBdependent with EBquota.
Again, I am waiting to hear a forum-Attorney or IV-core�s interpretation.
I support finding the fact...
Following two concerns were raised but the answers should satisfy....
1) Spouse may not get EAD/AP?
The document clearly states that if the primary's priority date is current then the primary can file I-485 and the spouse can file I-485 as dependent.
Once spouse files his/her I-485 he/she becomes eligible for EAD/AP and there are no restrictions on what and where the spouse can work on EAD/AP.
The document only says that the visa must be used from family quota and not from employment quota.
How does it then matter whether the spouse gets green card even after 10 years if he/she can work anywhere, any occupation and full time/part time?
2) Spouse may get GC long after?
Look at it this way currently we have pool of 140K to share among primary and dependents. What if this pool becomes 200K (if we assume 60K from family quota for illustration purpose)? Which one will be faster. It has to be 200K pool.
In any case let the correct rules be followed.

english_august
07-09 01:01 PM
I ve sent the pdf to my local newspapers. She is interested in doing the story.
Pls call & talk to her : kcollins@newsobserver.com
Feel free to call/talk to her.
Pls call & talk to her : kcollins@newsobserver.com
Feel free to call/talk to her.
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man-woman-and-gc
09-15 03:46 PM
Thanks to all who have pledged so far for fighting against injustice.
To those who haven't yet, we are collecting pledges to file a lawsuit against USICS against these random and opaque processing of GC's. Our target is to get 1000 affected people to pledge atlaset $100 each so that we can fund this lawsuit. No money being collected right now..just honest pledges.
There is a current list of members who have pledged support on the link below.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pgWehhQEb3jqwsRC8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
If you would like to help in this effort, please send me a private message with the following info:
1) Ur IV handle
2) Ph#
3) Email ID
4) Amount you would like to pledge.
Please note, we will move forward only if we have atleast 1000 pledged members to make up a sound force behind this campaign. So unity is the key here. We will not collect money unless we have a solid proof that we are not alone in this fight.
To those who haven't yet, we are collecting pledges to file a lawsuit against USICS against these random and opaque processing of GC's. Our target is to get 1000 affected people to pledge atlaset $100 each so that we can fund this lawsuit. No money being collected right now..just honest pledges.
There is a current list of members who have pledged support on the link below.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pgWehhQEb3jqwsRC8fcKLTQ&hl=en#
If you would like to help in this effort, please send me a private message with the following info:
1) Ur IV handle
2) Ph#
3) Email ID
4) Amount you would like to pledge.
Please note, we will move forward only if we have atleast 1000 pledged members to make up a sound force behind this campaign. So unity is the key here. We will not collect money unless we have a solid proof that we are not alone in this fight.
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GCStatus
09-15 05:14 PM
In my many years I have come to a conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two is a law firm, and three or more is a congress. - James Adams...
Get back guys. Don't waste your time on GC discussion. D what you love most, things will eventually fall in place.
Can i safely assume posting irrelevant/illogical messages in forums is what you "LOVE THE MOST TO DO"
Get back guys. Don't waste your time on GC discussion. D what you love most, things will eventually fall in place.
Can i safely assume posting irrelevant/illogical messages in forums is what you "LOVE THE MOST TO DO"
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11-17 03:34 PM
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reddymjm
06-12 06:00 AM
All checks cashed June 8th. It was sent to Nebrasks. I hardy just could read the SRC letters in back of my check. Online image in not good. I guess it has gone to Texas sercice center.
Do you know how long for receipt letter?
Thanks.
TIP: Print them you should be able to read.:) My checks cleared on the same day got the receipts yesterday. So you should be getting them today or tomorrow. I am not sure if attorney can chose whether to send it to you or not.
Do you know how long for receipt letter?
Thanks.
TIP: Print them you should be able to read.:) My checks cleared on the same day got the receipts yesterday. So you should be getting them today or tomorrow. I am not sure if attorney can chose whether to send it to you or not.
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Ramba
07-11 11:39 PM
@Ramba:
Nice assumptions...but we need evidence. Do any USCIS documents say they would need proof of a *running* income? (After all, you don't have paystubs for a future job in same/similar occupation.) Since GC is for *future* job, why can't self-employment in same/similar occupation, under AC21 and with *projected* revenues, be enough? Do they ask for paystubs and proof of long-term commitments/contracts in EVL-RFE?
Pls note that with current recession/depression, the "prevailing wages" for same/similar occupations have gone down--drastically in some cases (esp. IT). Also, you could open/register your LLC (by spending $400) for your self-employment to sound more "legitimate"--but that's certainly not a requirement.
Your argument is so nice. If you get a nice, immigrant friendly, kind hearted adjudicator for your 485 application, he may just approve even if you show the self employment will be in future (for future job requirement for GC), and he may agree for your "projected income". I think you have not read recent horror stories in H1B. They are just like that denying majority of H1B. If the petitioner does not provide commitment/contract from end client for the entire duration of H1B period, H1B approval impossible. H1B is a temporay job; just think how much they will scrutinize for GC. Those golden period are long gone. This is enforcement period as US unemployment rate is in double digit.
AC21 memo is a non-binding memo. Tommorow they may release another memo or regulation that repeal the self employment in AC21 cases.
Nice assumptions...but we need evidence. Do any USCIS documents say they would need proof of a *running* income? (After all, you don't have paystubs for a future job in same/similar occupation.) Since GC is for *future* job, why can't self-employment in same/similar occupation, under AC21 and with *projected* revenues, be enough? Do they ask for paystubs and proof of long-term commitments/contracts in EVL-RFE?
Pls note that with current recession/depression, the "prevailing wages" for same/similar occupations have gone down--drastically in some cases (esp. IT). Also, you could open/register your LLC (by spending $400) for your self-employment to sound more "legitimate"--but that's certainly not a requirement.
Your argument is so nice. If you get a nice, immigrant friendly, kind hearted adjudicator for your 485 application, he may just approve even if you show the self employment will be in future (for future job requirement for GC), and he may agree for your "projected income". I think you have not read recent horror stories in H1B. They are just like that denying majority of H1B. If the petitioner does not provide commitment/contract from end client for the entire duration of H1B period, H1B approval impossible. H1B is a temporay job; just think how much they will scrutinize for GC. Those golden period are long gone. This is enforcement period as US unemployment rate is in double digit.
AC21 memo is a non-binding memo. Tommorow they may release another memo or regulation that repeal the self employment in AC21 cases.
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05-12 06:45 PM
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buddyinsd
08-25 04:38 PM
Not sure if its a BREAK or no Visa numbers...
There were a couple of approvals today from TSC by looking at the other site.But slowed down a lot. Maybe USCIS is taking a break this last week and preparing for the next month:)
There were a couple of approvals today from TSC by looking at the other site.But slowed down a lot. Maybe USCIS is taking a break this last week and preparing for the next month:)
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eastindia
07-20 12:59 PM
The EB3 other worker category is more backlogged than EB3 general category. Mexico is unavailable. There is no hope for EB3 (Other) folks from Mexico. EB3 (Other) India, China, ROW hardly moves an inch in any visa bulletin. If your idea is implemented the oldest priority dates are in EB3 (others) and in Family based visas. Some families are waiting since 1990 to come to USA and reunite with their families.
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Janisaris
09-07 02:37 PM
Filing Date: July 2, 2007
Recieved Date: July 3, 2007 9am
PD: Sept. 2002
Center: TSC
Checks cashed: Sept 6, 2007
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Is you 140 approved from TSC?
Recieved Date: July 3, 2007 9am
PD: Sept. 2002
Center: TSC
Checks cashed: Sept 6, 2007
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v2neha
09-16 06:21 PM
Congrats !!! and can you please give me the details how to contact Sen. Kennedy - MA
If you live in MA, go to http://kennedy.senate.gov/ and select 'case work' from Constituents Services. If you live in another state, go to your state's senator's website and find link to send them request related to cases pending with gov. agencies.
BTW - I received physical EAD cards with two year validity in mail on 9/11
If you live in MA, go to http://kennedy.senate.gov/ and select 'case work' from Constituents Services. If you live in another state, go to your state's senator's website and find link to send them request related to cases pending with gov. agencies.
BTW - I received physical EAD cards with two year validity in mail on 9/11
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arung
08-13 10:37 AM
I think one need to create database based on who came in what year and what is the priority data's . True there are people like me came in 2000 and still has priority date as Dec 2004, this is not my fault, this is forced by GC process tied with employer.
The landing or start date of H1b/L1B + old priority date should be the real beneficiary of spillover in respective of EB.
The landing or start date of H1b/L1B + old priority date should be the real beneficiary of spillover in respective of EB.
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sanhari
08-13 10:44 AM
I think one need to create database based on who came in what year and what is the priority data's . True there are people like me came in 2000 and still has priority date as Dec 2004, this is not my fault, this is forced by GC process tied with employer.
The landing or start date of H1b/L1B + old priority date should be the real beneficiary of spillover in respective of EB.
You can try, but I don't think arguing based on landing/start date will work, because that time the intent is not for immigration(I also have a 3 year delay on my GC filing, due to my company). But the priority date which is an official starting point for an intent to be an immigrant has a better chance for success. Thank you for your inputs.
The landing or start date of H1b/L1B + old priority date should be the real beneficiary of spillover in respective of EB.
You can try, but I don't think arguing based on landing/start date will work, because that time the intent is not for immigration(I also have a 3 year delay on my GC filing, due to my company). But the priority date which is an official starting point for an intent to be an immigrant has a better chance for success. Thank you for your inputs.
vagish
07-08 11:52 AM
All 140K GCs are available on Oct 1. However, dates were not current in 2005 and 2006. I think that current dates do not depend on available GCs.
Looks like current dates depend on # submitted AOS's. USCIS is saying that on Jul 2 it has submitted AOS's that exhaust submitted AOS quota.
the availability of dates are determined by DOS after consulting with labor department and USCIS. if the they determine that enough labor applications are pending to fill the entire quota for the year they issue the cut off dates accordingly.
India is allocated only 10,000 visas in all categories(EB1+EB2+EB3). dates will never be current, given around 700K applicants were ready to file. out of the 700K I imagine atleast 35% will be from india, which translate to around 250K applicants from india who are ready to file I-485, india is given 10K , u can do the math and find out for yourself how much time it will take for the dates to be current.
Looks like current dates depend on # submitted AOS's. USCIS is saying that on Jul 2 it has submitted AOS's that exhaust submitted AOS quota.
the availability of dates are determined by DOS after consulting with labor department and USCIS. if the they determine that enough labor applications are pending to fill the entire quota for the year they issue the cut off dates accordingly.
India is allocated only 10,000 visas in all categories(EB1+EB2+EB3). dates will never be current, given around 700K applicants were ready to file. out of the 700K I imagine atleast 35% will be from india, which translate to around 250K applicants from india who are ready to file I-485, india is given 10K , u can do the math and find out for yourself how much time it will take for the dates to be current.
fastergcwanted
06-16 04:22 PM
First of all, congrats to everyone in the final stages of this tedious and frustrating process.
I have a question for people who filed I-140 and I-485 concurrently and got their receipt numbers.
I have gotten receipt numbers for my concurrently filed I-485 and I-765 as I paid for them (PD April 2003, I-140/I-485 filed at NSC). I do not have receipt for I-140 after more than 2 weeks. My employer is not giving me receipt number for I-140 as he may be wanting more money from me. Now, I have read in a forum that I-140 when applied concurrently should have receipt number very close to I-485 receipt number and normally I-140 receipt number is less than I-485 receipt number (i.e. if I-485's last four digits are 4600 then last 4 for I-140 number will be lower than 4600 and close to it. So, in theory I can scan numbers prior to mine and find closer ones for the same date and track them.
If you can please check your numbers and tell me if your I-140 number is before your I-485 number and how close they are to each other, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
I have a question for people who filed I-140 and I-485 concurrently and got their receipt numbers.
I have gotten receipt numbers for my concurrently filed I-485 and I-765 as I paid for them (PD April 2003, I-140/I-485 filed at NSC). I do not have receipt for I-140 after more than 2 weeks. My employer is not giving me receipt number for I-140 as he may be wanting more money from me. Now, I have read in a forum that I-140 when applied concurrently should have receipt number very close to I-485 receipt number and normally I-140 receipt number is less than I-485 receipt number (i.e. if I-485's last four digits are 4600 then last 4 for I-140 number will be lower than 4600 and close to it. So, in theory I can scan numbers prior to mine and find closer ones for the same date and track them.
If you can please check your numbers and tell me if your I-140 number is before your I-485 number and how close they are to each other, I would really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.
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